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Calling Christ a Bogan.

In this time, we can talk without being stoned. In the times of Christ, the mob would pick up stones and stone you: though it appears that many people want to stop speech by violence, and there are those who do not want us to talk about issues, Christ was not one of them. The current Pope is.

The crowd picked up stones to kill Christ because they understood what he said. He had said he was God. He is God. He had used the Divine name and applied it to himself, for when Moses asked what the name of God was he was told it was I am that which is.

And he cared not a whit that liars accused him of being aligned with Satan. He knew projection when he saw it, and he called it out.

John 8:47-59

47“Whoever is from God hears the words of God. The reason you do not hear them is that you are not from God.”

48The Jews answered him, “Are we not right in saying that you are a Samaritan and have a demon?” 49Jesus answered, “I do not have a demon; but I honor my Father, and you dishonor me. 50Yet I do not seek my own glory; there is one who seeks it and he is the judge. 51Very truly, I tell you, whoever keeps my word will never see death.” 52The Jews said to him, “Now we know that you have a demon. Abraham died, and so did the prophets; yet you say, ‘Whoever keeps my word will never taste death.’ 53Are you greater than our father Abraham, who died? The prophets also died. Who do you claim to be?” 54Jesus answered, “If I glorify myself, my glory is nothing. It is my Father who glorifies me, he of whom you say, ‘He is our God,’ 55though you do not know him. But I know him; if I would say that I do not know him, I would be a liar like you. But I do know him and I keep his word. 56Your ancestor Abraham rejoiced that he would see my day; he saw it and was glad.” 57Then the Jews said to him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and have you seen Abraham?” 58Jesus said to them, “Very truly, I tell you, before Abraham was, I am.” 59So they picked up stones to throw at him, but Jesus hid himself and went out of the temple.

The mockers are out and calling us evil. Nothing new here. They called Christ a Samaritan, illegitimate, a Galilean. The equivalent of calling someone now a bogan, a hick, and a bastard. They said he had a demon: we now say he was mad. And they demand, as those who opposed him in the time of Christ, that God himself modifies truth to fit their model of the world and their model of God.

If you want to read mockery, look at the comments to this post in Kiwiblog. The reddit atheists decided it was time for forced laughter.

I understand the Nelson diocese does not agree with the Synod 2018 resolution. In the Canterbury diocese, St Stephens Shirley is leaving on mass with its vicar. St Christopher’s vicar has resigned. St Saviours is leaving, as is St Johns. St Tims is deciding. Many other parishes are confronting the choice soon. There are approximately five parishes leaving at this stage, perhaps with more to follow.

That number is not indicative. Many more parishes disagree with the Synod resolution but will stay and dissent from within and accept the assurances of the bishop about “diversity of belief.” Colloquially called “stoppers,” they’ll stop (stay) and fight the theology from within while others leave completely and form new parishes outside the Anglican fold.

In other words, the Anglican church is splitting apart over the gay issue, as did the Methodists.

My own vicar at St Paul’s Papanui resigned last sunday, and the parish will decide what to do as a group on 9 September at a special AGM (next sunday). Some in my church will leave to start a new parish nearby with the vicar, others will stay at St Paul’s but accept the position we will not be forced to “bless” unions we do not agree with.

For most of us the issue is not actually about the gay question at all, which has been around since time began. The church was born into very open sexuality amongst the Greeks and other non-Jews, so this is nothing new. It is not “progressive” or “modern” or “forward thinking.” It’s just the ‘same-old same-old.’ You can view any number of red-figure Greek painted vases of 450BC depicting explicit graphic sexual activity between two, three or more sexual partners. It’s old hat.

For most of us, it’s actually about the authority of biblical scripture and whether it is a faithful communique on the will of God, and whether we can rely on it to teach, correct, guide and reprove all humans as to the right ways of living. Whether slavery is ok, or child brides, or drunkenness, or stealing, or being dishonest, or corrupt, etc. This also applies to forms of human sexuality and their practice. Mostly in the past we’ve said ‘what goes on in someone’s bedroom is of no concern to anyone.’ I agree. But it’s not just now in bedrooms. Churches are being asked to condone theologically a particular form of private sexual practice.

John Stringer, Kiwiblog

The current fashion of allowing the effete and cowards to rule, saying this is virtuous, wise, citing tolerance and the precautionary principle, has led to a Pope who will not speak and damn the clear evil in his church and Archbishops who contradict scripture to bow to a false rainbow unicorn.

And they forget their fate.

Christ did not. Christ taught who he was. And it is important that we stand with him, ignore what they call us, and speak truth in a time of evil power.

Above all, we cannot be like them.

One Comment

  1. Theo

    “He had used the Divine name and applied it to himself, for when Moses asked what the name of God was he was told it was I am that which is.”

    Elohism doesn’t distinguish between the individual members of Elohim.

    Hear, O Israel: YHWH is you Elah, YHWH is one:
    Deu 6:4

    Let us make mankind in our image
    Gen 1:16

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